Roy Hunter
Co-Chairman
ANGFA of North America
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-----Original Message-----
From: jazep at www.peter.unmack.net <jazep at www.peter.unmack.net>
To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
>Hmmm...
>
>Talk about a "Holier than thou" attitude. Have you taken over running the
>list then, Roy?
>
>Julie <><
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Roy Hunter wrote:
>
>> I think at this point we can take this off the list. When shipping fish
you
>> cant make everyone happy all the time. I have had fish get lost,
everything
>> arriving DOA, etc. It is the responsibility of the person ordering fish
to
>> inform the shipper at the time of arrival if anything is dead. Sorry but
>> anything swimming sideways in my book is dead.
>>
>> Granted Al should have sent the money or reported the fish dead to Peter
but
>> I think the AL bashing has gone on long enough. Also I am a little amazed
>> Gary that you would make this your business when it is between Peter and
Al.
>> By no means are you a saint in your shipping practices and by no means am
I
>> so neither of us have any right to say anything.
>>
>> Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
>>
>> I am not religious so dont take it as such but I think all of you will
get
>> the idea.
>>
>> Roy Hunter
>> Co-Chairman
>> ANGFA of North America
>> visit the ANGFA website at:
>> http://www.angfa.org
>> reach me at:
>> roy at angfa.org
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Lange <gwlange at stlnet.com>
>> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
>> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
>>
>>
>> >:-) Putting Al in the same category as Mark Amen is a little harsh (ok
way
>> >tooooo harsh), but Al you're not telling all of the story... As Peter
said
>> he
>> >was sent email numerous times with no reply. One reply/call stated that
>> your
>> >wife forgot to send the check. Uh, you replied to the RML list that the
>> bag
>> >arrived quite wet but the fish were still alive. After several months
>> Peter
>> >tried to get some sort of response out of you, I even made a couple of
>> phone
>> >calls because this really didn't sound like the Al Andersen that I
>> knew...still
>> >no response. What do you expect? Like Peter said if you had let him
know
>> >right away you would have either gotten more fish or a bye on the amount
>> due.
>> >Saying something wayyyyy after the fish have been shipped only raises
>> questions
>> >about your motives. Wish you hadn't waited so long.
>> >
>> >My deserts arrived just a tad wet but all the fish were fine. The
largest
>> male
>> >has now been incubating a ton of (100+) eggs for some 4 days. Just in
case
>> >those others that got gobies from Peter, it's time to use 'em (spawn em)
or
>> >lose 'em. They don't last a real long time but boy are they cute while
>> they
>> >last. Not as pretty as a rainbow... but way nicer than a cichlid :-)
>> (stir,
>> >stir)
>> >
>> >Gary Lange
>> >
>> >----------
>> >> From: Al anderson <killiman at indy.net>
>> >> To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> >> Subject: Re: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
>> >> Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 1:33 AM
>> >>
>> >> Mr Lang
>> >>
>> >> I Am sending the ignorant dumb jerk $50.00 cause he is a poor student
not
>> >> for the improperly shipped fish that arrived here in VERY BAD SHAPE
>> because
>> >> of your letter I wish nothing to do with that Jerk again. One out of
the
>> >> six lived and that is being shipped to him.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 08:02 PM 10/26/97 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >Thanks for the warning Peter. It's people that welsh on a promise
that
>> make
>> >> >this hobby difficult. We'll make sure that everyone knows that
Andersen
>> >> can't
>> >> >be trusted anymore to pay his bills. He's now in the same bin with
that
>> >> >famouse check bouncer from Chicago, Mark Amen! Most people in the
>> killifish
>> >> >business don't deal with him except with cash.
>> >> >
>> >> >Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >----------
>> >> >> From: peter.unmack at ASU.Edu
>> >> >> To: killies <killies at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> >> >> Cc: rainbowfish <rainbowfish at pcug.org.au>
>> >> >> Subject: [RML] Re: I Need Fish Now--Al Anderson warning
>> >> >> Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 4:11 PM
>> >> >>
>> >> >> G'day folks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Al anderson wrote:
>> >> >> > I would like to find 10 pairs of any type of funlopanchax.
>> >> >> > please reply back private e-mail.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I figured this would be a timely warning to folks regarding sending
>> fish
>> >> to
>> >> >> Al Anderson if you expect financial re-embursement for them. I
sold a
>> >> >> bunch of desert gobies via the rainbowfish list, half a dozen of
which
>> >> >> went to Al. That was back in April, 1997. Despite several
attempts
>> by
>> >> >> myself (a starving graduate student) and others no money has been
>> >> >> forthcoming for the fish. Hence, wait until you get his check
cashed
>> >> >> before you send any fish if you really want to get your money. :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Feel free to pass this onto anyone you see fit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Peter J Unmack peter.unmack at asu.edu
>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> DESERT FISHES RULE: To boldly thrive where no other fish can make
it!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Australian desert fishes pages at ozdesertfish.base.org (don't
forget
>> to
>> >> >> visit the Desert Fishes Council pages too)
>> >> >> Native Fish Australia pages at www.nativefish.asn.au
>> >> >> North American Native Fishes Association at www.nanfa.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> BREED YOUR FISH
>> >> TODAY MAN'S OVER-
>> >> POPULATION IS
>> >> KILLING THE WILD
>> >> SUPPLY
>> >> ICQ # 1819967 net chat
>> >> any time on
>> >> Al Anderson
>> >> killiman at indy.net
>>
>>