One remedy is to obtain a nasty big cichlid, you wont see any snails, but
then you prolly wont see any plants or 'bows either <g> ;)
Cheers
merlin
At 22:08 10/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Graeme
>After the loss of much hair, time and plenty of fish using all manner of
>methods in a vain attempt to rid my room of snails, I found salt at
>15ppt worked a treat, leave for a week then water change as usual. Salt
>at this rate didn't kill any of the fish (rainbows, grunters and
>plotosid cats) though some of the rainbows such as the Oktedis have been
>happier. Though if you have planted tanks you may have to remove the
>plants and treat them separately.
>
>Steve
>
>
>andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au wrote:
>>
>> G'Day Graeme
>>
>> Potassium permangenate will certainly kill snails in gravel, and
>> indeed even the dreaded "black" algae but it is a bit severe - the
>> gravel needs to be treated afterwards to remove the traces of the
>> chemical. Lots of washing and scrubbing ;)
>>
>> An alternative is one of the many copper-based "snail-rid"
>> preperations - but be warned - the amount of copper that needs to be
>> added to water to kill the burrowing snails is often toxic to fish.
>>
>> I haven't had a snail "problem" for many years now, can someone
>> recommend a better way?
>>
>> Cheers, Andrew
>>
>> ______________________________ Reply Separator
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>> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
>> Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
>> Date: 2/10/98 2:42 PM
>>
>> Thks Andrew,
>> Would you think that this would work against those little barstard
>> burrowing snails??????? I'm having to boil my gravel to get rid of them
>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Many Tanks
>> G
>>
>> > ----------
>> > From: andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au[SMTP:andrew.boyd at dfat.gov.au]
>> > Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 12:49
>> > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> > Subject: Re[2]: [RML] Disease
>> >
>> >
>> > Howdy Graeme, once apon a time I obtained some Vall from an untrusted
>> > source - I
>> > made a killer brew of 30 percent vinegar and boiling water, coloured
>> > it pitch
>> > black with Potassium permangenate, and left the plants in there for 15
>> > minutes,
>> > making sure I had washed every scrap of soil from the roots.
>> >
>> > The plants were fine - after thier leaves grew back ;) The object of
>> > my
>> > particular exercise was to kill snail eggs - it worked. This
>> > Vallisneria went
>> > on to grow thickly in a 120 gallon tank, until I put some blasted
>> > Severums in
>> > there and they mangled the lot ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> >
>> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
>> > _________________________________
>> > Subject: RE: [RML] Disease
>> > Author: MIME:gfinsen at brs.schneider.com.au at INTERNET-MAIL
>> > Date: 2/10/98 11:35 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > I have recently aquired some plants (Crypts) that came out of a tank
>> > with what I suspect are TB infected rainbowfish. Does anybody out in
>> > RML land have a procedure to sterilise plants of TB and/or other
>> > infectious nasties.
>> >
>> > I was thinking of using diluted liquid pool chlorine and "dipping" the
>> >
>> > plants into it, and into fresh tap water several times.
>> >
>> > Any ideas would be most appriciated.
>> >
>> > Many Tanks
>> > G
>> >
>> > > ----------
>> > > From: Bruce Hansen[SMTP:bhansen at ozemail.com.au]
>> > > Reply To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 8:39
>> > > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> > > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure that 2 weeks is long eenough to get the TB to be
>> > evident
>> > > -
>> > > probably it is only long enough to stress the previously latent TB
>> > > into
>> > > activity and then it will take a few weeks to really crank up
>> > >
>> > > Then I guess it depends how stressed they were and how long it took
>> > to
>> > > batter their way through from breeder to wholesaler and holding
>> > before
>> > > shipping out.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Bruce.
>> > >
>> > > Bruce Hansen, ANGFA, caring for our aquatic ecosystems.
>> > >
>> > > Please visit us at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fisher/angfa.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----------
>> > > > From: Adrian R. Tappin <atappin at ecn.net.au>
>> > > > To: rainbowfish at pcug.org.au
>> > > > Subject: Re: [RML] Disease
>> > > > Date: Tuesday, 10 February 1998 5:46
>> > > >
>> > > > At 19:22 8/02/98 -0500, Denise wrote:
>> > > > >Yes, DVM is Doctor of Veterinary Medicine and I work for a
>> > tropical
>> > > fish
>> > > > >wholesaler in the U.S.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >_Mycobacterium_ is widely spread here too among many tropical
>> > > fishes and
>> > > > >others. There was an incident last summer in which a red drum
>> > > re-stocking
>> > > > >program had a small percentage of fish infected with
>> > > mycobacteriosis.
>> > > The
>> > > > >media had a field day intimating that there was a significant
>> > > chance for
>> > > > >human infection from such a disease. Not that it can't happen,
>> > for
>> > > it
>> > > can,
>> > > > >though the zoonotic potential is quite low. Those of us in the
>> > > business
>> > > now
>> > > > >use the term nontuberculous mycobacteriosis instead of "fish TB."
>> >
>> > > >
>> > > > All live fish coming into Australia have to go through a 2 week
>> > > quarantine
>> > > > period. However according to a reliable source many of these fish
>> > > are
>> > > coming
>> > > > out of these quarantine establishments grossly infected with
>> > > mycobacteria. A
>> > > > percentage of them die in the retailers tanks and the rest are
>> > sold
>> > > to
>> > > the
>> > > > unsuspecting public. I would hazard a guess that if samples were
>> > > taken
>> > > from
>> > > > retail pet stores that most of them would return a positive test
>> > for
>> > > > mycobacteria.
>> > > >
>> > > > Adrian.
>> > > >
>> > > ...............................................................
>> > > > Adrian R. Tappin
>> > > > "Home of the Rainbowfish"
>> > > > http://www.ecn.net.au/~atappin/home.htm
>> > > >
>> > > ...............................................................
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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